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Fan Rant: Ledger's Drug U...


Fan Rant: Ledger's Drug Use Has No Place in Oscar Talk

Posted by SexiVixxEN 124 days ago.

Fan Rant: Ledger's Drug Use Has No Place in Oscar Talk An editorialist named Eric P. Lucas says in Friday's Los Angeles Times that since Heath Ledger's death was the result of his own recklessness, he therefore should not win an Oscar for his performance in The Dark Knight.

"It's time to stop the canonization of Heath Ledger," Lucas begins. "He's just a pretty good actor who did away with himself and broke the hearts of his family and friends, and he shouldn't get an Academy Award to memorialize his death. ... Each year more than 100,000 Americans die of alcohol or drug abuse. It would be madness to commemorate one such death with the greatest honor in cinema. Please give the Academy Award to someone who's had the courage to stick around."

Lucas asserts that Ledger's performance isn't all that great anyway -- "a can-can dance of snuffling pseudo-psychopathia," he calls it -- but that's irrelevant to his larger point. It would seem that even if Ledger's Joker truly did represent the finest acting of the year, his personal behavior should disqualify him from Oscar consideration.

To Lucas I say this: Wanna watch me make this pencil disappear?

I actually agree with a lot of what he writes about how certain people's drug- or alcohol-fueled deaths make them more iconic than they would have been otherwise. Did Kurt Cobain's suicide rob my generation of its greatest poet? Nah. I think the only group that really suffered a major loss when Cobain died was the heroin industry. And I think it's silly when people talk about getting emotional when they see Ledger in The Dark Knight, as if the death of someone they never met still makes them misty-eyed all these months later. So let it not be said that I am not a heartless bastard.

My beef with Lucas is his ludicrous assertion that the manner of Ledger's death should have any bearing whatsoever on his Oscar-worthiness. Here's what should be taken into account when you consider acting awards: the acting. What's up there on the screen is all that matters. The Academy Awards aren't meant to be seals of approval on people's personal lives. Even if Ledger had died in the act of machine-gunning a busload of American-flag-draped orphans, it would have nothing to do with the quality of his film performance.

Roman Polanski is a convicted rapist. Frank Sinatra was a two-fisted drunk with Mafia connections. Lewis Carroll was probably a pedophile. Henry Ford hated Jews. Thomas Jefferson owned slaves. Do none of them deserve the praise they got for their professional work? Just how flawless does a person's life have to be for their creative efforts to have any merit?

Furthermore, when Polanski won an Oscar for directing The Pianist, nobody said, "Well, I guess that means the Academy endorses the drugging and sexual exploitation of 13-year-olds!" What people said was, "I guess that means the Academy thought Polanski's work merited an Oscar." Giving Ledger an Academy Award isn't going to send any message other than "he gave a great performance," period.

Lucas believes that people are praising Ledger's performance only because he's dead. The problem with this theory is that people were talking about Ledger's work as the Joker before he died, too. When Entertainment Weekly's Benjamin Svetkey visited the set last summer, Ledger was "all that anyone working on the movie want[ed] to talk about." I don't doubt that Ledger's death has tinted some people's analysis of his performance, but it's arrogant and presumptuous to insist that those of us praising him have somehow been deluded or misled by the facts of his demise.

Like I said, I'm a cold, insensitive jerk who has no personal connection to Ledger's death whatsoever, and I think his performance is brilliant. I'd think the same thing if he were still alive, or if he had punched my mother in the face, or if he had once married Paris Hilton. None of that matters. What he does in The Dark Knight is what matters, and that's the only thing the Academy should consider.

Comments


  • DANgerous990
    posted by DANgerous990
    being prescribed percription drugs myself through mental illness is no fuckin joke lucas twice ive been in hospital once in a coma through human error on dosage so dont give me that crap at the end of the day heath ledger made dark night work as where batman begins failed come round and say this shit face to face you moron
    posted 117 days ago
  • theoriginaldirkdiggler
    Fuck that guy. It doesn't matter of Heath Ledger died by his own prescription drugs or not...who knows if it was even intentional. Yeah, and it was documented that the role of The Joker drove him crazy. It sure didn't make Jack Nicholson kill himself portraying the same character.

    Who knows? Heath Ledger still could have died playing The Joker or not. And he SHOULD win Best Supporting Actor. His death or not, he still blew us all away with his performance, and deserves the oscar. Plain and simple.

    So...this dude is a dumb twat and needs to shut the goddamn fuck up.
    posted 117 days ago
  • glomer4
    posted by glomer4
    What a loser, get a life pal!!!
    posted 118 days ago
  • celi23ro
    posted by celi23ro
    Suck my dick Eric P lucas!! You are an ass hole
    posted 121 days ago
  • mrbicklethepickle
    It was ACCIDENTAL overdose of prescription drugs, that he was taking for a sleeping disorder. It's not like he overdosed on Cocaine or something.

    "Here's what should be taken into account when you consider acting awards: the acting. What's up there on the screen is all that matters."

    Yah I totally agree..and that's why he should win!!!

    So get a life Eric P. Lucas!!!!!!!!!!!
    posted 122 days ago
  • skorned810
    posted by skorned810
    I agree with Eric P. Lucas. If Ledger took his life cause of drugs saying the character he played influenced him then he is weak minded and deserves no Oscar even though he played the part quite well. If he still lived then he should be awarded the Oscar for his performance, but he choose drugs cause he couldn't take the heat. As Mr. Lucas says "Please give the Academy Award to someone who's had the courage to stick around."
    posted 122 days ago
  • enrique34024
    posted by enrique34024
    yeah, how on earth would lucas know about ledger's deepest personal predicaments & then come up with a judgmental analysis concluding that he shouldn't deserve an Oscar because his personal behaviors doesn't merit an award. Oscars are given out based on cinematic performance.Ledger's portrayal of the Joker was exceptionally well done. Even before his death, his colleagues were talking about what Ledger had done for his role.
    posted 122 days ago
  • azsha1riot
    posted by azsha1riot
    Wow, I'm blown away at the disrespect for the dead, no matter how he died. He was a human being and none of us will know of someone else's struggles, we all have our faults.
    posted 123 days ago
  • filmaker99
    posted by filmaker99
    heath ledger was a victim of the joker. i think that because of that he deserves an oscar.
    posted 123 days ago
  • theohiostateguy
    Come on now. Enough with the hate.

    Ledger wouldn't react that way. He'd probably say something like "I'm happy with the performance, and so are alot of people. You can't please everyone, you just do your best, and let your work speak for itself."

    Even though I didn't like him as an actor (with the exception of his Joker role, and in 10 Things I Hate About You), nothing about his public persona would give credibility to hateful behavior.

    Just my thought.
    posted 123 days ago
  • Payto
    posted by Payto
    I should smash the S*** out of you Eric P. Lucas
    posted 123 days ago
  • vidiot49
    posted by vidiot49
    The guy that wrote this is a great writer and someone that tells it like it is. The fact that many people who have achieved gtreatness and shown their genius have had personal problems is well known. Hell, it's part of the job description. To the list of great and brilliant people who had personal demons I would add John F. Kennedy, Jerry Garcia, Marilyn Monroe, Lenny Bruce, Ulysses S. Grant, and Mozart and Beethoven too. There are many others
    posted 123 days ago
  • munkybeans86
    posted by munkybeans86
    THIS IS F***N IGNORANCE ! HE HAD BEEN SUFFERING FROM INSOMNIA FOR MONTHS, WHO WOULD THINK MAYBE A COUPLE MORE SLEEPING PILLS WOULD KILL YOU ? I EVEN TAKE EXTRA MEDICINE WHEN IM SICK BC YOU DONT EXPECT IT TO ACTUALLY KILL YOU.
    posted 124 days ago
  • amt1991
    posted by amt1991
    Lucus...A hole!!!
    posted 124 days ago
  • alush1
    posted by alush1
    Part 2!
    Might I present a list to further make my point?
    Janis Joplin
    Jimmy Hendrix
    Jim Morrison
    Curt Cobain
    Edgar Allan Poe
    Sylvia Plath
    Vincent Van Gogh
    John Lennon
    Vivian Leigh
    Richard Burton
    Marlon Brando
    River Phoenix
    Elizabeth Taylor
    Marilyn Monroe
    Elvis Presley
    F. Scot Fitzgerald
    Ernest Hemmingway
    These are just off the top of my head.
    posted 124 days ago
  • alush1
    posted by alush1
    It really infuriates me when people blur the line between personal morality and judgementalism with issues and people who are the artists of the times.IF Heath Ledger killed himself, and misused drugs etc what on earth does that have to do with artistic expression and societal recognition. He was an extraordinarily fine young actor - and the Joker role was his tour de force,or so I've been hearing from all of my friends who have already seen the film.

    It was the same thing with Amy Winehouse when people questioned her "right" to get acolades for her musical genius, because she is such a wreck personally. Just because people disapprove of the lifestyles of artists,does not automatically mean that they do not deserve recognition for their talents via Oscars,AMAards or their place in artistic history. The expression of ones talents and the attention it brings does not mean either that these people have a responsibility to be a "good" role model. That is a gross error in reasoning.
    posted 124 days ago
  • blackangel5000
    dude that lucas guy is a worthless piece of sh*t who shouldnt talk bout things he probably dont understand. i sulute to the responce of the other guy.
    posted 124 days ago
  • Mkfan14
    posted by Mkfan14
    That's MONSTEROUS! Heath Ledger's Joker was the best EVER!! They're not suppose to judge personal lives. They're suppose to base it on their performance. Beside Heath Ledger didn't do it on purpose they already said it was an accidental death!! GO HEATH LEDGER!
    posted 124 days ago
  • xxNemoxisxgoingxxtoxxNeverland
    always thought the oscars were supposed to be based on how the actor acts not about his personal life. give him an award for being an awesome joker, dont take it away cuz he made a bad choice in his life.
    posted 124 days ago
  • SexiVixxEN
    posted by SexiVixxEN
    Right and I totally agree with you Ohio,Flat out Oscars should go to DESERVING actors,I dont care if they are green,with 99 tatoos and a reverse mohawk if they can get on the big screen and dazzle me ,Let em have it.I forgot the other point I wanted to make about Heath,and I am no doctor,BUT Verne Troyer was saying on the E true hollywood deal about Heath Ledger's life last week that Heath was not sleeping well and if we all remember right he had Pnemonia at the time as well.So if you take a human body that's already that beat down,it might have not taken a mix of too many anything for that to happen.You know what I mean?


    ~Lisa
    posted 124 days ago
  • theohiostateguy
    And you are right Lisa. There are plenty of Hollywood "greats" that are hardcore illegal drug users.

    What's worse is that many use alcohol as well as the illegal drugs. Alcoholism is just as deadly and hurtful.

    Many of my favorite actors are/were drug and alcohol abusers.......William Holden and Steve McQueen are but two "legends" that abused those substances.

    But it has no bearing on an actors performance deserving an Academy Award.
    posted 124 days ago
  • theohiostateguy
    Writing as someone who is familiar with a family member that is addicted to "medicine", painkillers and sleeping pills.....you can deny that a loved one isn't an addict, but you only hurt yourself and them even more than just the drugs.

    My father is to the point where he is willing to buy legal "medicine" illegally because he is in pain and thinks that he needs the drugs.....the situation that the comment below me describes the way my dad puts it when he "needs" his "medicine".

    Ledger may not have know the concoction that he was taken was fatal (there is still speculation on whether or not he committed suicide), the fact of the matter was that he was a drug addict and an abuser.

    Many people on the planet do not require these "medicines" in the quantity, frequency, and variaety that Ledger and my father do. They allow themselves to become controlled by this so-called "medicine" and find no way out because they refuse help.

    I can't say it enough folks, do the research.
    posted 124 days ago
  • GothamsDarkKnight
    Well,You said it all Vixxen completely agrees with you ^_^
    posted 124 days ago
  • SexiVixxEN
    posted by SexiVixxEN
    Ok-

    I don't comment on my stories alot,Only when I feel pretty passionate about something I have to say.So with this topic I want safely put Heath off in the corner right over here.Now then The Oscars can we just take a step back in time and analyze how many dam REAL drug users have either been nominated for OR won an Oscar?A couple quick names come to mind um Johnny Depp,Jack Nicholson.I am sure if I sit and think for a few I can come up with a nice solid list for everyone.Point is here he was on prescribed medication though too many and wrong mix,this was not a man shooting f-ing heroin everyday then going to work.Dam
    posted 124 days ago